so working with girls through gender equity, doing self-defense, also something that's male dominated has helped me see i can apply for a top school and can go for what i want. i think that definitely, the after-school programs have helped me the most with that. >> what does it say about us that i am this inspired by young women under 20? >> there is something kind of both fabulous and also appalling about how much they have accomplished. >> it is not appalling. i started thinking, what is the word. looking at both of you. both of you have got a lot of confidence because you were doing these events in school. it was part of, whether it was after school playing chess or you organizing and all that. so many kids don't have this way in which they can jump into something and feel like they own it. that piece of ownership that you know you did something that's really great and putting up the trophies and everything, growing up in high school is really hard. this is a moment where people pick at you for all sorts of things. if you can have this one thing you are really good at, it's amazing